Lack of Time
Due to some work related pressure, I won't be able to update today.
Here is a great, informative link for those who need their daily news dosage -
http://muqata.blogspot.com/
Sorry!!
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Due to some work related pressure, I won't be able to update today.
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The press here in the US is reporting that Israeli missles hit the UN building and 2 UN peacekeepers are dead, with possibly two more. The Israeli ambassador to the UN is adamant that the missles were not intended to hit the UN building, but the Lebanese (and others) are insisting the UN building was targeted on purpose, although they can't say what the purpose would be.
Now Hezbollah is saying they will send missles deeper into Israel.
The above is as of 2200 Eastern Time, USA.
The media focus seems to be primarily on the Americans being evacuated, when not on the UN building being hit, and reactions to the hit, or reporting a combined death toll of over 500.
A US poll I saw yesterday shows the narrowing of opinion as to the response by Israel to the provocation of Hamas and Hezbollah; today, too, is the first time the two events have really been linked as though the two sets of kidnapping were concentrated and combined efforts, as opposed to two separate events.
This is spiralling.
Take care, Ilan, you and yours are in our prayers.
Here in Slovenia we're getting really off-colour reporting on the national TV station. Our reporter in the Middle East has "ventured into Hezbollah controlled territory to bring us breaking news on the ground."
I was quite amazed when she referred to the Hezbollah as "rebels" and "resistance fighters". Either she's very partisan or very much unaware of the Hezbollah organization's background.
To luka:
are aware of HA background? what is it? maybe there are resistance fighter after all! Maybe thats why Lebanon is not giving them up.
However, the HA background does not change what Israel has to do. Israel had to do the same regardless of HA being the Labanon army or the resistance fighters or a terorist organisation.
well... what i am reading NOW is this:
14 Israeli Troops Killed by Hezbollah
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BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) - Hezbollah inflicted heavy casualties on Israeli troops as they battled for a key hilltop town in southern Lebanon for a fourth day Wednesday, with as many as 14 soldiers reported killed. Lebanese officials, meanwhile, confirmed that four U.N. observers were killed by an Israeli airstrike on their post Tuesday night.
there was more to the article, but ah, this enough to read.
*hugs*
oops, so sorry. i had meant to edit all those links.
*hugs*
Anonymous: Yeah, as far as I recall, the Hezbollah were organized with Iranian assistance in the early 80s, after the Revolution, to help bring about an Islamist State.
But the point is, they're not resistance fighters in Lebanon ...
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A rant on "Who Benefits From War"
I agree, maybe it's a bit abstract, but hopefully it makes sense.
http://inhumannews.com/2006/07/23/rant-on-the-middle-east/
and
http://inhumannews.com/2006/07/24/finishing-the-rant/
1. Nasrallah is killed.
Three weeks into the war there is no sign for the two kidnapped soldiers. There is also no sign of the Hizbollah leader. More than 50 Israeli citizens were killed and the numbers on Lebanon side are getting close to a thousand. 200 hundred of them are Hizbollah soldiers.

Just a quick note, Ilan. I read the scenarios and one thing strikes me: they are all pretty passive, accepting things are out of our hands. But as I see you posted on Beirut Notes, you yourself are engaging a debate with ordinary people in Lebanon and elsewhere. This is in itself a positive step, however small.
On a strategic note, you leave out Palestine from the scenarios when the problem was sparked by incidents there.
also you left US and Iran out!
But good work anyway.
Phew, I'd rather see the US and Iran and China and Russia and Saudi Arabia and Egypt all left right out of this!
:O
hizbolla wouldn't attack the UN.
and remember, the katyushas started after israel started bombing beirut. in fact, isn't that how it has been most of the time in the past 10 years?
And i guess the soldiers were kidnapped after we started the bombardment?
soldiers were kidnapped after we started the bombardment?
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No they were not, but to get them back you don't engage a full invation of a country and attacking the airport and factories.
There is no doubt that it was HA assult to initate this crisis.
But simply it's israel in appropriate self-defence which more look like an invasion than anything else.
if you look at it that way, then you can say the katyushas started after israel started bombing beirut.
but it will change nothing. the poor civilians are getting hurt in Israel and Lebanon. and not that many people are doing anything to put an stop to it
I have to say, Ilan, that I agree with anonymous 1:19. It's a bit cheeky to say that the bombings should continue because of the recent shellings, when the shellings are a reaction to the bombing.
But as I've said elsewhere, it is neither normal nor acceptable that northern Israel live under the threat of shellings. Ultimately, the situation has to be normalised. That will only come about through the normalisation of relations with Lebanon and Syria.
The path chosen by the Israeli military goes off the meter in terms of extremity.
I'm afraid you are both wrong on the account of the shelling and bombing.
The Kidnapping of 2 soldiers and killing of 8 was preceeded with a high number of Katyusha missiles fired upon all of the north of Israel. This was the smoke-screen for this action (the kidnapping) and the reason it took so long for the Israeli army to find out what exactly has happened.
Interesting. I have to think about it a little.
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i sit here and simply shake my head. not good. i was watching the news this morn and heard the things coming out of iran. not good. upsetting. i wish it would all just stop. everywhere!
*hugs*
I think anything could be possible. Does it mean this link ( ) is Labbywood? Never mind the first picture of childeren painting but the rest. Is it Ballywood too?
I guees if we had peace no one needed to play such sceens and if they are that talented, they could play in Hollywood or Bollywood.
Thank-you for posting this. My comment is about the first potentially staged scene-who shot the driver? If the wound is to his right thigh, the shooter had to be someone in the cab of the vehicle, or in the crowd of Palestinians clustered on the right side of the vehicle, right?
Or are Israeli guns able to circumvent the laws of physics?
SYRIA – Unofficial sources state that Syria prepared its ground and air forces on high alert ready to attack. Pilots are sleeping in cockpits.
thanks for the news, keep it up
also watch this vide please. I am not sure how true it is, you might know more.
Truth is a gray area.
For example -
He is saying that those kidnapped brothers were hid from the press.
In that case why the news about them appear here and here? (Hebrew here and here)
Second, he claims Palestinians kidnapped the soldier (Gilad Shalit) as a revenge for IDFs' kidnapping those brothers - but the tunnel under IDFs post was dug long before the so called "kidnapping".
Third... Chomsky is not a big fan of Israel (Or USA in that matter).
yes, it is a gray area like when you say that half the dead were hizbollah !! how could that be while you are targetting roads, houses, media, power stations and even a church!! i believe hizbollah soldiers were praying in the church then!!
half the dead were kids
Free soul - Both you and I don't have the exact numbers. Even numbers are players in this war because each side will try to use them for their own advantge. I say "half of them were Hezbollah" - you say "half of them were children". We both rely on media for this information, and we all know that media is the grayest of the gray (at best) when it comes to our (middle east) region (or any other place in that matter).
You say we are targeting roads, houses... And what do you think the Hezbollah is targeting?
I guess you are right, but compare the equipment that Israel has to what Palestinians have? Maybe the tunnel has been there for a long time but they would use it when it's needed the most.
But I think there is a something more important that needs attention. Even if we assume that they wanted to do that kidnapping long time a go, still why there is double standards? Why if Palestinians kidnap someone (a soldier) it is so bad but if the Israelis do the same (civilians) it is ok?
I agree with you that these are just numbers but we also have seen the pictures of dead children, so many of them. There are some grey areas but there are some areas which are too bright but we are still blind to them.
I still have not understood why Israel is destroying Lebanon rather than HA. I don't know how much of coverage you have there but the scale of bombardon is unbelievable and inappropriate and unacceptable.
I don't know what will happen once this madness is done, but I know it won't get any better. It never has got better after any war. It is just making the gap between people bigger and bigger.
Beless you all.
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I hope you don't mind, but I created a Live Journal syndication account so users there can add your Feedburner feed to their friends list.
I went ahead and made a button for you to use too.
I was going to post it here, but img tags aren't allowed.
Hey there, can you find some reference on the Lebanese casualties? I came across some data indicating that one third of them are minors.
Cosmic - Great stuff!
I will update the button ASAP
Luka - According to the latest publications in Israel - about 360~390 casualties on the Lebanese side. Couldn't find a more specific number, but I will try to look up more detailed information on Sunday(Shabbat is here..)
Just thought to contribute something.

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Whilst your intentions are obviously noble, the problem with 'No War' is that it usually implies, 'Live with the Status Quo'.
...Or find better ways to change reality (Status Quo) - Diplomacy.
yeah, i'm sure diplomacy would return our kidnapped soldiers back and prevent such incidents from happening again.
did it ever occur to you that:
a. we fully extracted all diplomatic paths to both crisis?
and
b. that our enemies are using are diplomatic naive approach against us?
i say, ENOUGH of this subserviency!
sometimes you are ought to fight back!
Ilan, good on you. God on you, dammit. War ain't bringin' the kidnapped back, it's just takin' more folks to the other side.
Whenever you see a war you should ask: "cui bono" - who benefits? Guess who? Uzi. AK. Glock. Etc.
I say no war is a just war ... and no peace is just either. The only difference is the number of people killed. And that's a tally that makes things DEAD clear to me.
Added your button to Inhuman.
sure luka, until islamic jihad will reach you and then all the humanity in the world wont help.
'stepping to the other side' can just as easly happen to your beloved ones, even if they are not at war. for example a bombed bus, perhapse train, maybe a plane.... and all that becuase afew wackos decided they are heretics for not believing in muhamad.
keep on smoking.
I've been thinking about this for days, and keep coming back to this:
HAMAS INVADED ISRAEL, KILLING AND KIDNAPPING ISRAELIS.
HEZBOLLAH INVADED ISRAEL, KILLING AND KIDNAPPING ISRAELIS.
WAR IS NOT HEALTHY-PERIOD.
But sometimes...sometimes...'cause if you don't, the world becomes one big prison.
Ilan, I have a son your age, since 2000 my biggest fear is that he would be sent to war.
My nephew, 40, is a tank commander, I worry about him 24/7.
My grandson just turned two years old in May.
More than almost anything, I want my son, his son, to never go to war; I wish my nephew was a pediatrician.
But my father and my uncles were in the infantry from 8 December 1941 through 1946-Pop was wounded in both theaters, my uuncles were in the pacific. My mother (British) lost several family members in the years 1939 on-some were killed in the Blitz.
They didn't want to go to war, but if they had not...
I'm so sorry.
Hezi - How can you be sure of anything? Will violence bring back the kidnapped soldiers? Or maybe their bodies?
Luka – Thanks mate!
Joe – What is your solution? Total annihilation? Full re-education of the Islamic public?
Fox's mom – Thank you for your words.
Joe: I understand you perfectly. But ... to be honest ... I don't see much "Islamic Jihad" coming this way. I see more of us and our bombs going the other way.
Let's also be honest - I would far prefer a world at peace than a world at war.
And now I'm going to go fetch a bagel for breakfast.
Ninth day of fighting and the end just doesn't seem any closer. Soldiers and civilians are dying on both sides of a war that nobody wants. But everybody needs. Or at least, that's what we should think… I think…
What do we learn from this table?
From Israeli side – The fact that that IDF is willing to settle with only information about the kidnapped soldiers show that IDF officials understands that they won't have enough time to find and retrieve to soldiers – lack of quality intelligence information – a problem which in this state, might cause heavy losses on our side as soon as infantry troops will enter Lebanon (already entered?).
From Hizbollah side – No chance to any of that as long as Nasrallah lives - Which is now number one priority for IDF.
IAF bombed Hizbollah bunker tonight. 23 tons of explosives. As it seems now – he wasn't even near the site. "Lack of quality intelligence" anyone? – The fight continues as it seems. Unfortunately to us all.
And what about the home front? As it seems Israelis and Lebanese found ways to deal (in a way) with the crisis.
By games
http://www.tapuz.co.il/North/Game.asp
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=battlesinthenorthtv6.swf
http://planet.nana.co.il/atarsh//flashoo/nasral.html
http://www.amirlotan.com/nassralla/nasralla.html
By programs
And by video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-nipIdnU6k (thanks Zvi)
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G-d Willing Nasrallah will die a painful death.
Yawp!
It would be nice to pursue confirmation for reports of two Palestinian civilians (one a doctor), reportedly apprehended--without charge, from Gaza--by IDF soldiers the day before Hamas captured the Israeli soldiers.
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It's the second week of fighting and here are some number -
BBC is reporting at least 230 Lebanese killed so far. I think this whole mess is going to leave a lot of bad blood ... at best.
Ilan: Are you SURE that Israel has 26 civilian casulties so far?
There were the 8 from the train yard, 2 in Nahariya, 2 in Meiron, 1 in Tzefat
(Those are the ones I recall so far)
Luka - Thanks for the info - If you got more numbers, please post. I will update.
Jameel - There are contradictive numbers in different newspapers. I used Ma'ariv numbers as they were published today. But you are right, I was also suprised by the high number. Mistake?
Ilan: yes, I think its a mistake and maariv meant civilian and IDF numbers together. (and that still looks high)
You should know by now not to trust the Israeli MSM ;-)
Jameel @ The Muqata - Yeah. I've checked the numbers again and updated it.
It seems that the number of killed soldiers will grow - There is unofficial information about at least two soldiers killed in Avivim.
When it's going to end?
Ilan: I'm following the BBC reports ... and checking up some other sources slowly.
apparently there have been 60 casualties in Lebanon and 6 in Israel today.
The numbers are probably off - how ever many there are, tho, is too many.
Here's the link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5196800.stm
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Ilan - do you have a good kmz overlay file for google earth with Israel's northern cities?
Thanks!
Actually... no. And I don't know why i didn't thought of that. I will work on it!
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I've not seen any surveys here in the US, but I know that the people I listen to are (as am I) behind Israel in this as well.
May all the their missles fail at launch!
"May all the their missles fail at launch!"
Nice prayer to start the day with :)...
What bothers me the most - The Lebanese citizens who suffer for crimes of a megalomanic idiot (Nasrallah of course)...
From over here, it is hard to understand why the government there has not come out against Hezbollah-to us it seems clear Hezbollah started this, after watching Hamas take the first soldier.
This is the one of two things my co-workers (most are Muslim) and I agree on completely, the second being we need to add our voices in ongoing prayers for the innocent-especially the little ones.
Thank-you again for re-opening Little Israel, although I truly wish the circumstances different, happier!
Thanks for the updates. Please keep them coming. I'll return frequently.
BTW... Fox's mom sent me. She is a regular visitor at my blog.
Thanks a lot for your support!
Hi Ilan,
What a lovely blog. We all have our version of the truth! I'll quote a famous Israeli song : "Things seen from over there can't be seen from right here"
Peace to everyone.
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From the BBC:
"Though the confirmed Lebanese death toll is about 420, the health minister estimated some 600 people may have died, with scores of bodies undiscovered under rubble."
It is 29th July, 2006, 1740 hours Eastern. I'm leaving this comment to let you know I'll be offline for a while due to my house moving this weekend-my ISP isn't sure how long it will be before I'm back online. I want to let you know that I will be watching the television news, and hoping to hear of a peaceful and satisfactory resolution to this terrible crisis.
And, of course, praying for you and everyone there.
Peace-it can happen!
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You don't have to apologize for giving my blog a link!
:-)
Thanks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y3ILLVW-rU&eurl=
17th August 2006 2130hrs, USA-ET. Ilan and frineds, I'm back online as of last evening; I've been watching some film links left here and at my blog by Anonymous.
How are you Ilan?
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